I live in Salt Lake City and I had a conversation with missionaries yesterday from the LDS church. It's long and pretty boring so feel free to skip it.
What really bothered me was that I couldn't look them in the eye. I was very nervous and emotionally bothered by the whole thing. I honestly thought they were crazy and I didn't want to set them off. But now I feel like a coward for avoiding eye contact.
"They asked: Have you heard of the LDS church?
Yeah, I grew up mormon. My family are all mormon and I left the church.
They asked: So why did you leave the church?
Um, well I went to college and learned about science and evidence based reasoning. When I applied that scrutiny to my beliefs, I discovered the claims religion makes are not supported by sufficient evidence.
They asked: Do you believe in God?
Um, no. I can't prove he doesn't exist. I'm not a hardcore atheist. I just don't believe in that stuff.
They said: Oh so you're not an atheist you're agnostic.
Yeah. I'm an agnostic-atheist or thereabouts.
They asked: So why do you believe in evolution?
Um, I don't believe in evolution. But I think there's great evidence for it.
They asked: Have you read the book of mormon?
Uh, yeah. Cover to cover several times. But that's not evidence it's just a book. Just because something was written down a long time ago doesn't mean what it says is true.
They said: Have you prayed about it. Because I testify to you that when you pray you'll feel the spirit in your heart and know that its all true. That it's a testament of Jesus Christ and his love for you.
Well. I don't mean to be rude. But we know hallucinations exist. It's been proven that some people experience things that don't really exist. What you're talking about is just a feeling. That is not evidence guys.
They asked: Do you think Jesus Christ lived?
Ugh, um. I think a guy named Jesus probably lived. But that his Dad was special or that his mom was a virgin when she gave birth or coming back from the dead or turning water into wine? That's all pretty crazy man. I don't think you have enough evidence for any of that stuff. But suppose it was true. Suppose all that stuff happened. That wouldn't prove what he was saying was true. They're separate claims. It's like saying because a guy eats chocolate he can't tell a lie. That makes no sense.
They said: So what would it take to convince you? Would an Angel have to descend from heaven for you to believe?
Well that would be a great start. I don't know. Tell you what, if an Angel came flying down from Heaven proclaiming that your church is true I'd convert on the spot. That would be pretty convincing.
They said: I heard a debate years ago between a professor of something or other and an apostle of our church. And the Apostle said that the ultimate form of evidence is faith. Faith will move mountains and turn hearts of stone into vessels of the Lord. The professor couldn't deny that was a true.
Oh. I really don't want to offend you but um... I don't see any difference between faith and gullibility. The arguments religion make are the same types of arguments that con artists use and that's not a good thing. Look I respect what you guys do. Two years is a massive commitment but I don't agree with your point of view. Take it easy guys and have a great day."