Hi all, I am a science teacher in Germany. Generally spoken, we seem to be in a much better position than our collegues in the USA, as creationism is still very uncommon among Christian believers - praise the teapot. However, as a teacher in an urban area, I have many muslim pupils, and frauds like Harun Yahya seem to get a grip on them. Salafistic fundamentalists gain influence, so does creationism. To discuss these matters, it would be very helpful to have moderate muslim authors on my side. Does any of you know about arabic, turkish or other authors who are still muslim believers, but live in the 21st century?

regards, Andreas

Quote: "Does any of you know about arabic, turkish or other authors who are still muslim believers, but live in the 21st century?"

Muslim: a person of the religion known as Islam 21st Century: Digital; World Communication; Space age.

I'm sorry your question does not compute. There are no religious followers who 'live' in the 21st century, as this is a contradiction.

If you do happen to find one > He's lying ;) (usually to himself)

Touché, Madame.

But sometimes a person lives in two of all the possible worlds. I myself wanted to be a Christian socialist when I was 16. (Well, then I read the bible and met some real socialists, after that I was cured of both ideas...)

Some Islam evolutionists:

Seyyed Hossein Nasr; Ahmad Pervez; Dr. Abdul Wadood; Dr. Inayatullah Khan; Dr. Muhammad Iqbal; Dr. Hamidullah

Ghulam Ahmad Pervez even wrote a book titled: The Phenomena of Nature in the Quran and Sunnah

İbrahim Hakkı (18th century) is famous for stating 'between plants and animals there is sponge, and, between animals and humans there is monkey'

al-Jahiz (c. 776-869) in the Book of Animals, idea was 'Environmental factors influence organisms to develop new characteristics to ensure survival, thus transforming into new species.'

Obviously a lot more info at: Islamic views on evolution: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_views_on_evolution

Do note that the Islamic belief is that the Qur'an is a perfect and supreme source of guidance for the entire of mankind. The Qur'an states that God made men out of clay! Truly madmen agree with this absurdity.

We can site books/quotes and stories back and forth all day. But quite obviously only fact and reason is what should be taught to our children. With a strong emphasis on denouncing all ridiculous religious beliefs. Possibly the world is not ready for this clear and obvious reality?